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Para or Symp

Para or Symp

Are you a 'para' trooper or stuck in the sympathetic?

 

The human nervous system controls us. Its more powerful than our thoughts and always takes precedence over our thinking. If you've ever experienced a panic attack, you'll know that trying to talk yourself calm doesn't work. Indeed, a lot of people seeing another upset will tell them, "Calm down!" - like that ever works☺️

 

Our bodies are infinitely wise and priority goes always to doing whatever it takes to keep you safe, keep you alive. We all possess a stress response (the sympathetic nervous system) and a calm response (the parasympathetic nervous system). To remember which is which, think of a paratrooper coming down to save the day and restore calm, and sympathy as in the chaos of a symphony orchestra playing every part out of sequence.

 

When we are under extreme stress or experience trauma, the nervous system goes into one of several different modes in order to protect us from threat. The first is flight - we can run away (images of Monty Python's Holy Grail knights storming the castle come to mind!)

 

Sometimes we fight - we attack. Maybe we freeze and hope nobody notices us? Finally, we may fawn - we placate an aggressor (common in abuse). The system is designed to flow between the two states - in a threat situation, our brain floods the body with stress chemicals - adrenaline, cortisol - to prep us to get out of physical danger (it can be mental or emotional too), the idea is to give us the best chance of getting out of the way or attacking if we need to. Priority is put to the muscles and systems like digestion turn off temporarily, our vision narrows and our breathing changes. Its faster than we can think too becausr its coming from the limbic brain - the seat pf emotion, not the thinking brain, or cortex (the wrinkly bit at the front behind the forehead).

 

With too much stress, anxiety or trauma, we can get 'stuck' in the stress response. This makes us on high alert, jumpy, always expecting something bad is about to happen. None of this we choose, we are wired this way.

 

The good news is you can rewire yourself back to the parasympathetic or calm (also known as 'rest and digest' over time with practice. Mindfulness exercises, deep belly breathing, slowing down are all ways to achieve this. The power of a deep breath is underrated - when you feel stressed, breathe deep by pushing your belly out (we breath from the top of the chest and rapidly when stressed). Imagine you are inflating a balloon centred in the stomach. Listen to your breath...sounds a bit like gentle waves on the ocean when you slooooooooow dooooowwwwn and breathe deep, doesn't it? That's it. 5-10 of these can really help. Notice your immediate surroundings and be present. What do you see, hear, feel, smell and taste right now, right here? Keep breathing (try to breathe out through your mouth about twice the length of the inhale and inhale through the nose).

 

Once you feel calmer, you can think straight and take some action. Hope this helps.☺️

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Hi @Icaruslanded 

 

Thanks for the summary. I think many people will find it informative. I remember being in my early days of treatment and being told to control my breathing/meditate to help my anxiety. At the time I felt like I wasn’t being taken seriously. How could something so simple help something that felt so huge? Now, I know how much of a difference just breathing properly can make (I’m still slightly annoyed that it works as well as it does 😂). This really is the stuff that needs to be taught in schools. 

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Hey there@Lapis_Anteater - I agree, there is so much more awareness that needs to happen. Still a lot of men in particular who believe it is weak to ask for help. It isn't because everyone has their breaking point and compassion, kindness and helping another soul is the higher road, rather than telling someone "not to sook" or "suck it up." There comes a point where depression and anxiety gets so bad, the sufferer feels disempowered. Glad you got some help for your challenges and it works for you. I did try to make this post not so wordy (easier said than done for me as I want to pour out what I know - and I have my own challenges at the moment to be sure, but I know a lot of tools to help too and like to share them).

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Hi @Icaruslanded 

 

So true! There is only so much a person can take before everything becomes overwhelming. It’s so important in those times for people to have good support around them. It’s really great that you are helping the community through sharing your knowledge. You seem very wise. I hope your challenges are manageable for you and improve in time.  

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You know, I heard a story once about men coming home from the second world war. Many were so damaged by the horrors the saw on the battlefield that they went AWOL. Back then, that was treated pretty harshly. The truth is, we have a limited capacity for stress and once the threshold is reached, that's it. Does it mean we cannot heal? Absolutely NOT. We can always heal. The best thing to do when going through trauma, stress, anxiety is to go into "safe mode" (if you are a Windows fan), "Battery saver mode" if you are into iPhones. In other words, set the goals, but limit them down to what you can handle, so you can not exhaust your battery too soo. Don't try to do everything - that never works. SOME PROGRESS is always better than none, and every small step forward is a WIN.

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@Icaruslanded following chronic sympathetic activation, I'm frequently in a state of parasympathetic rebound AKA dorsal vagal shutdown AKA freeze

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I feel for you mate, it can feel like hell - been there myself the freeze response makes it extra challenging because its a state of intense fear and numbness. I have found small, positive steps forward,, finding simple ways to love yourself for who you are and gently correcting yourself when the negative self' talk starts up helps.

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Hi@Icaruslanded,

 

i'm stuck in sympathetic (C-ptsd) and have a lot of physical symptoms body cannot stop feeling unsafe. i've been on meds for a little over 4 weeks and am struggling with a lot of tremoring in hands and legs and adrenaline crashes. I get really bad headaches, face flushes and i feel wiped out after along with feeling quite sad and depressed after.

 

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Hi @Misty7 . I'm sorry you are going through CPTSD, its a nasty thing and not well understood sadly. Its caused by repeated or sustained trauma as the main differenxce to PTSD and usually you don't get flashbacks with it. Grounding helped me a lot as did deep belly breathing and hypnosis.

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Hi @Icaruslanded,

 

Thankyou very much for your reply. You are right there are no flashbacks.I've gotten increased tremoring and feels like an increase in anxiety. When you say grounding do you mean the 5-4-3-2-1 method?

 

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@Misty7 grounding is bringing yourself back to the present moment in your body (the body is a container and we get our safety within it, very primal). So, yes you can do 5 things you see, 4 you hear etc. But, there are plenty of other ways to ground - barefoot in nature; hug a tree; meditate with a crystal in yoir non-dominant hand; hug yourself (left hand under right armpit, right hand hugging the top of your left arm near the shoulder...very peaceful.

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Thankyou again. I will try the hugging one. If you have any more tips please let me know.

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Ditto Cptsd it can be debilitating re symptoms
I don't live in the green zone very often I can't socalise i feel awkward

I met a vagus nerve guy as all my nervous are Dysfunctioning ive been doing the very simple process it took 9 days before it switched on im now teaching my mum as i care for her and realised her vagus nerve is also dysregulated after 4 weeks and daily practice i can activate vagus nerve in usually under 10 seconds

Sending you so much strength and love ❤️ its a massive game changer i finding symptoms are overwhelming ive been waiting 6 months pandescopy esphougus swallowing issues and choking on food
Stress and a growth ho hum plant medicine helps me alot

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@Misty7 it sounds very hippy I know but after about ten minutes you start to feel the connection with another living being. Plants have a serenity to them that we can feel.

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@MedicinalGypsyI actually collapsed from an overload and that is how I found out about the vagus nerve (Its called vasovagal syncope), body just goes into shut down. It happened at workplace which was super embarrassing. It comes right in a short while fortunately. Scary when it happens though.

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@Icarislanded

I understand I collapsed last August stress overload fell backwards onto timber floor my mother has Alzimhers she didn't even know unfortunately i meet incontinence when I became conscious and very sore
Its unbelievable journey one day at a time

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@MedicinalGypsy - yes, much the same circumstances with regard to stress overload at the time. It was around Covid before the furloughs came in. FYI, if it ever happens again, the quickest fix is to lay flat on the floor and have your legs raised about 6 inches - you will come right in around a minute.

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@Icaruslandedthank you apologies slow response ive had trouble logging in

Technology feels difficult some days 🙏

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@MedicinalGypsy no problem at all, I was in bed for two days, still trying to shake this chest infection, You might have had problems checking in since they have a new process now. It should be easy enough once you get in the first time.

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